{"id":505,"date":"2022-07-08T13:50:37","date_gmt":"2022-07-08T03:50:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/?p=505"},"modified":"2022-07-19T14:00:45","modified_gmt":"2022-07-19T04:00:45","slug":"profit-series-part-16-with-greg-lobsiger","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/2022\/07\/08\/profit-series-part-16-with-greg-lobsiger\/","title":{"rendered":"Profit Series Part 16 with Greg Lobsiger"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Now on to Parts, Paint &amp; Sublet COGS. I won\u2019t get into parts discounts very deeply here, but finding good parts suppliers, with good discounts, inventory and SERVICE is key. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is year 2022 and if you are ordering parts by phone, fax or email, you will likely never achieve high profitability. One more thing to quickly touch on, if you repair more parts rather than you replace, this also drives down PPS as a % of sales. In the end, do the right thing for the car. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Next, please pay attention here. We have a customer\u2019s truck in our shop right now, who paid us an additional $300 out of pocket for new OEM over A\/M parts on 2014 Chevy truck. All we had to do was ask, as we were already price matching new OEM. At the end of the day great parts discounts are nice, but if the vendor has terrible service and if you\u2019re not sure what lie they told who? The big discount isn\u2019t worth it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As far as driving down Paint &amp; Materials COGS, as a % of sales.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/paint.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-595\" width=\"300\" height=\"196\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>There are MANY factors to paint profitability and I will give you just some of them.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>1. Writing good estimates with good refinish labor.<\/em> Here are a few things in Ex: CCC refinish times that are NOT included: Matte finish, 2nd color setup, color tint, stone guard, masking for stone guard, let down panel for three stage, 2nd car cover for priming, back tape WS &amp; back glass, mask jambs, FPB, raw bumper prep, mask strikers-hinges-labels-door openings-hatch openings-engine compartments, inside refinish for bedsides-roofs-floors-steel-bumpers-quarter panls, weld burn damage on each adjacent panels (this is a huge one and don\u2019t forget repair of the panels), denib\/buff &amp; Etc. If replacing door skins, add not only for edging, but inside refinish \/plus R&amp;I all components. FYI: We haven\u2019t replaced a door skin in years, shells only. For the OEM\u2019s to even service door skins or example truck frame sections, is just wrong. Sorry, but I don\u2019t believe for one second they are on our side when you follow the $. Study <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/l.facebook.com\/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FDEGWEB.org%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0CoNlYubtsr0CbK5eJa8MrWEcgVG9QFy_uvnTL8kcUIsxtYya9r4wF0aE&amp;h=AT3rqMR0xK-XJOeRV2Rjh5HxelVxVIA0WynwBakgs2ojJwng6gBhos9Wl6X69Ti7h5aGjpCWWfWTa1kzvG8IMTdYR4td0Nxpl32iioVTLbfMIMgZBHvVFjftpW4_7kxOCg&amp;__tn__=-UK-R&amp;c%5b0%5d=AT3LT1vFsTOaFFMT6OqyQHSZ2Ircmybsh0KDoAii8isvEIeeABumlfk0twbamyvXywXFVbhSi101cR73rydcMIn5UiDZYcVelXj5kcezyBSYQMV5Rwm2r5WfceNpVy1L8HcqKWeJn-MllO2f9S-atTb2FFt7Qi-mc4OFaSHOnN5zqUlWj4rcNJVQfzqW9ON_r7C4RBlof65hoMd7BY_S\" target=\"_blank\">DEGWEB.org<\/a>, as they have some great videos on adding clear coat Etc.!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>2. Using paint &amp; materials calculators CAN be very helpful.<\/em> Just remember, don\u2019t EVER let paint invoicing systems be a band-aid or a crutch for poorly written estimates!! We use Axaltas Colornet. FYI: You can have Colornet setup to send you an email, if the painter goes over your set threshold for each RO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>3. Paint supplier discounts,<\/em> just to touch on this one. For the most part, it comes down to how many shops you own and the amount of paint you by monthly. If you can\u2019t get anywhere with your local supplier for a better discount, just start talking to other paint manufactures about switching lines. Then let your current supplier know, as that will stir the bucket. Talking with other non-competition shops, will give you an idea if you are being treated fairly. At the end of the day, I want my supplier to make a fair profit, provide me with good service along with good inventories and a fair discount. FYI: We order paint &amp; supplies ONLY once per week. I don\u2019t need drivers coming in every day chit chatting and us messing with all those invoices. FYI: The paint vendors don\u2019t want to come in every day either, by the way!! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>4. Painters mixing and usage. <\/em>Axalta is telling us; we should strive for 2 ounces of water base basecoat for every refinish hour on an estimate. Solvent is 2.5 ounces. If your shop CANNOT achieve this on average, its either the painter has a very heavy finger, or the estimates are very poorly written with less than 10 average refinish hours per RO, or both are a problem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>5. Leave out glues\/adhesives, doubled sided tapes, seam sealers, sound deadeners, stripe tapes etc. under P&amp;M COGS.<\/em> Otherwise, these costs are supposed to be under Stock Parts in your P&amp;L. These items are parts and NOT P&amp;M. So many shops don\u2019t bill for these parts and blame paint manufactures for high paint costs. If you are not familiar with 3M\u2019s CRIMP tool for invoicing for these items, please contact your local 3M rep and use this great tool (see photo of one of my invoices).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>6. Don\u2019t accept refinish reductions on repaired panel.<\/em> We may accept -.1 or -.2 deduction, but that its!! There are 17 operations in the CCC\u2019s p-page G35 BASE COAT COLOR APPLICATION (see photo). Remember, application of the actual basecoat is only one of the operations!! Put your foot down or some insurers WILL steal from you if YOU let them, it\u2019s just that simple. If the insurer can rob you of just one refinish hour off your estimate, they have just taken approx. $100 out of your billfold!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>7. Paint CAPS are illegal in most states<\/em>. Now some communist insurers have changed the wording to, \u2018Thresholds\u2019. You must keep a close eye on these in Estimate Rules (In CCC) IF you download insurers estimates. If they CAP you, then back to invoicing them!! At the end of the day, in your P&amp;L you should strive for Paint &amp; Materials SALES to be at least 10% or above of your Gross Sales and Paint &amp; Materials COGS at 5% or below of your Gross Sales or 50% GP. As far as sublet GP. You can work out a deal with your vendors, for early pay discount and add markup in the estimate. About 90% of the time, we are paid a labor time for dropoff and pickup for sublet time. Two people, two cars and gas for both vehicles. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow aligncenter\" data-effect=\"slide\"><div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_container swiper-container\"><ul class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_swiper-wrapper swiper-wrapper\"><li class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_slide swiper-slide\"><figure><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"355\" height=\"284\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_image wp-image-506\" data-id=\"506\" src=\"https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Picture25.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Picture25.jpg 355w, https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Picture25-300x240.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 355px) 100vw, 355px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><li class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_slide swiper-slide\"><figure><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"396\" height=\"543\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_image wp-image-507\" data-id=\"507\" src=\"https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Picture26.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Picture26.jpg 396w, https:\/\/planningplus.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Picture26-219x300.jpg 219w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 396px) 100vw, 396px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><\/ul><a class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_button-prev swiper-button-prev swiper-button-white\" role=\"button\"><\/a><a class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_button-next swiper-button-next swiper-button-white\" role=\"button\"><\/a><a aria-label=\"Pause Slideshow\" class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_button-pause\" role=\"button\"><\/a><div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_pagination swiper-pagination swiper-pagination-white\"><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now on to Parts, Paint &amp; Sublet COGS. I won\u2019t get into parts discounts very deeply here, but finding good parts suppliers, with good discounts, inventory and SERVICE is key. This is year 2022 and if you are ordering parts by phone, fax or email, you will likely never achieve high profitability. 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